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I mentioned in earlier updates that I would be using templates for the arching. Mr. Vartanian has always used his eyes and he has started showing me angles and ways to look at the arch to make it even and smooth. He also let me borrow a violin he was working on to base my arching.

Arching the Back

Arching the Back

I had to pay special attention to the corners to make sure they are smooth and after checking with him one morning he said I was at a good stopping point and I could move on to the top. You can see in the bottom left of the second picture here one of the spots that is going to be thin from the drill press I used flattening the edge.

No Arching Line on the Corner

Leaving the Back

Moving onto the top, Mr. Vartanian cut out my pattern since I’m personally a little nervous about doing something like this on the bandsaw. He is very efficient and cut right up to the line of the pattern. He also said half jokingly half seriously I should keep the extra wood incase I mess up. I put it aside just in case.

Cutting Out the Top

Backup Wood

The Top

Tracing of the Top

I started to compare the thickness of the back to the top just to see how much wood I’m actually going to have to take off. It’s pretty amazing how much extra is needed to create something so thin. I started to use Mr. Belote’s violin cradle to rough the arching of the top and Mr. Vartanian gave me another option for work space similar to his table I used for the back. We nailed two pieces of leather into a bench to brace the plate up against. It was very easy to work with and adjust angles without having the plate clamped down.

Comparing the Thickness

Arching the Top

Leather to Brace the Plate

Leather Nailed Down

Working with spruce is very different from maple. The grain of spruce runs vertically so it has a tendency to split. This is most difficult in the C-bout area. To counter the splitting there, Mr. Vartanian told me to come at the splitting wood from two directions. It is also much easier to cut spruce than maple so I’m finding that I can brace the plate with my hand and work with it against the leather. With a rough 5mm line I started gouging out a rough arch.

Rough Line for Thickness

Wood Splitting

Gouging the C Bout

Rough Arch All Around

Closeup of Rough Gouging

Sometimes wood will have little impurities in it that can’t be seen till it’s cut into. This is common to see in the process of making and sometimes in the final product if it doesn’t get cut away. I found a little one in my top that started to disappear after I cut away more wood.

Impurity in the Top

Since I left the top a little thick when it was being glued together we took it down flat again with a plane taking off about another millimeter. I then went to rough the arching more now using finger planes instead of the gouge to smooth things out.

Flattening the Top

Rough Arch with Finger Planes

Before taking the plate to the drill press, Mr. Vartanian wanted me to take the edge down to 5mm more exactly to help counter messing up and getting too thin an edge at any spots. This I did with a plane as well. Here’s how the thickness is comparing after the edge work.

Thomas Planing the Edge

Roughing the Edge of the Top

Comparing Thickness Front and Back

Before taking the top to the drill press Mr. Vartanian noticed I’ve been working rather slowly and he showed me some ways to more efficiently take wood off. He said it usually takes him about a day to get a nice rough arch for the top. We set up the drill press and I focused more on keeping a constant pressure on the top. I was successful in cutting an even edge this time!

Edge Taken Down with Drillpress

Rough Corner Close Up

Rough Edge

Going back with small planes I took the edge down smooth and left it for the holiday!

Smoother Arching by Mr. Vartanian

Smooth Corner Closeup

Smooth Edge

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So I took the clamps off the back plates and the seam was uneven more that I would have liked. After talking to Mr. Belote he pointed out that I should have placed clamps underneath to counter the pulling upward motion of the center clamp. I’ll remember this when I glue the top seam.

Uneven Back After Gluing

Close Up

Instead of ungluing and cleaning up the mistake it is just as acceptable to re-plane the bottom side of the back plate which didn’t take too long.

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Underside Glued and Planed

Closeup After Planing

Upon doing this I took the thickness/height of the arch on the back down to 16.5mm. This is an acceptable height that I will plane down from when creating the arching of the back plate after cutting out my pattern.

Back Glued without Clamps

Gauges

Even though it will change over all the carving and scratching the flame always excites me when looking at a violin, especially to see how it develops through the process of making one. Here’s a close up of how the flame lined up around the center seam after the planing. This will be close to what you see in the end and what will be brought out by the varnish.

Flame on Unfinished Back

The wood I’m using for the top was cut on the quarter. This is more easily described as looking like a slice of pie. You can see how the rings of the tree curve around and line up showing how they grew at some point as one. Some people think that by cutting the wood this way and joining them together you end up with a more even and more flexible plate. Whether that’s true or not, it is a very traditional cut and common to join the wood this way. Compared to the wood I used for the back this wood involved less initial “grunt” work to flatten and square off the sides. They were already fairly close which made the required planing a lot easier.

Top Quarter Cut

Top Plates Before Planing

Top View

Mr. Vartanian gave me some hints as well to help things along and I noticed as he was helping me that he holds the large plane more efficiently by extending his index finger on his right hand. This gave him and me more balance and, more importantly, more control by adding another angle variant. He also helped my frustration finding a hump as I tried to get a good joint and he pointed out that the plane needed to be sharpened which helped immensely.

Top Plate Flat

Top Plates Flat

After Planing

Comparatively I took less time to work the top than I did the back but I will get better at this over years instead of weeks.

Here’s an idea of how tight the grain is for the top, something I personally really like to see in instruments and will be interesting to see how it’s brought out when there’s varnish on the wood.

Closeup of Top Grain

Gluing the plates was much easier this time because Mr. Belote let me borrow two bar clamps that the plates could rest flat on and still be clamped together. They’re located on the outside of the joint. I also countered the upward bend I dealt with on the back by placing the center clamp on top and the quick grip clamps on the bottom.

Front Plate Glued with Better Clamps!

Underside of the Front Plate

After everything set it still looks like I’ll have some planing to do before it is perfectly flat but I’m much closer than I was last time which is great news and will allow me to focus on getting the plates cut out soon!

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Well, this week is a learning experience. Since I’ve worked on violin repair before I am very familiar with the tools used by a violinmaker. One of the smartest tools is a plane. Planes can be set to a very fine degree and when used properly will supply amazing results.

Squared Half with Tools

Bigger Planes

In the case of what I did last week, the wood joined to create the back has to be planed down and squared off. The square can not have any gaps in the seam. Even the smallest hump, bump or dip will cause a lot of problems down the road in the process. For me, I had to remember how to use a plane efficiently again. At first I could barely pull off any wood without skewing off to the side or splitting the grain on the surface. After some study and practice I started to analyze the plane like I would a piece of music that is giving me trouble. I found that I was shifting my weight and I had more success if I didn’t hover over the plane.

Tools used to square back.

Mr. Belote also gave me the trick of looking at the strips of wood coming from the plane to make sure I wasn’t leaning to one side or the other. I finally was able to succeed in planing the bottom side flat. I had to use a flat edge to check all my angles and make sure there was not just the absence of humps but also light beneath the edge. The most common straight edge I know of and used is a large ruler as you can see here in this picture. Next I had to use a square against the joint side to help me measure a 90 degree angle against the flat side I just created. This was trial and error and I had a lot of help from Mr. Belote since Mr. Vartanian was out for part of the week.

Square

Squared Plate

The other way to check the flatness of a surface is to compare it to a flat surface. A piece of marble seen here can show the difference of the two plates and then the final product after working both sides. Here’s another picture of the back seam itself before gluing. I took down some of the extra wood with a band saw since my joint edge was now flat to help with the amount of arching I’ll do later.

Back Glued

Closeup

Yet again, something did go wrong.
The clamps pulled a little and it ended up not gluing flat. As for right now, the glue set too quickly so I’m letting it sit over night to fix later. I’ll have an update next week with how I adjusted the result and how the top is going. Maybe this time my plane techniques will go a little quicker.

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